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Experiential Therapy: Less Talk & More Action
Traditional talk-based therapy is sometimes less effective for neurodivergent people. On this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes ADHD-er and licensed social worker Chris Nealy, to discuss the effectiveness of experiential therapy for neurodivergent individuals. They talk about some of the different forms of experiential therapy, like applied theater, equine facilitated psychotherapy, and technology-based interventions. These forms of therapy focus on nonverbal communication and body language, allowing for more effective communication and engagement. They also discuss how experiential therapy has helped improve relationships and understanding within families.
Takeaways
Experiential therapy, which focuses on nonverbal communication and body language, can be highly effective for neurodivergent individuals.
Applied theater and equine facilitated psychotherapy are examples of experiential therapy interventions that have shown positive results.
Technology-based interventions, such as video modeling and incorporating personal interests like gaming, can also be effective in experiential therapy.
Experiential therapy can help improve relationships and understanding within families by providing a different perspective and facilitating communication.
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Chris is a licensed social worker and military veteran service provider in the state of North Carolina. As a person with ADHD, he fully embraces the strengths and challenges of executive functioning differences experienced by those affected by ADHD and Autism. Chris enjoys helping others recognize their potential in personal, social, academic, and professional arenas. ADHD/Autism have huge impacts on intimate relationships as well, and Chris provides support for parents and couples who are navigating the hurdles of loving someone with these qualities.
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“Buck,” the film
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Bridging Brains and Hearts: Trauma and Neurodiversity
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This week, Emily Kircher-Morris sits down with Jessica Sinarski, a mental health counselor who merges neuroscience with education and family dynamics. They dig into the complex relationship between trauma and neurodivergence, underscoring the critical need for trauma-responsive practices and a strengths-based perspective in supporting neurodivergent people. They explore how trust and early life...
Decoding ADHD in Children: Early Diagnosis, Leveraging Strengths
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Today we’re tackling the challenge of decoding ADHD in children. Emily Kircher-Morris chats with Drs. Yael Rothman and Katia Fredriksen about the cultural and socioeconomic factors that influence the diagnosis, the disparities in diagnosis rates among different racial and ethnic groups, and the impact of stigma. They also explore the benefits of early diagnosis and intervention, and of recogniz...
Phases & Stages: Executive Function Growth Throughout Life
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Our guest is Jane Singleton, an executive function coach and consultant, and she talks with Emily Kircher-Morris about the development of executive functioning skills through different life stages, and how it impacts individuals. They talk about the importance of practicing these skills early on, to prepare for the increasing demands of independence. You’ll pick up strategies for parents to hel...
Beyond the Page: Empowering Young Minds
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In episode 221, Emily talks with Brad Wright, a Neurodivergent Educator and Administrator, and author of the Infinity Blast series of middle grade books featuring neurodivergent characters. They discuss his work as an educator and how it influenced his decision to write fiction for young people. It’s important for educators to be educated about neurodiversity and provide accurate information to...
Unlocking the Power of Neurodiversity in STEM
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We’re talking STEM today, and Emily Kircher-Morris is joined by Dr. Arash Zaghi, a professor in the Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering at the University of Connecticut, to discuss the importance of neurodiversity in STEM fields. They talk about the need for diverse perspectives and ways of thinking to solve complex problems in science and engineering. There’s a value in different...
Ask Me Anything #8 with Emily Kircher-Morris
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In this episode of the Neurodiversity Podcast, Emily Kircher-Morris answers questions submitted by members of the Neurodiversity Podcast Advocacy and Support Group on Facebook. The questions cover a range of topics including listening to the podcast with children, supporting processing speed issues, managing low self-esteem, diagnosing ADHD in older age, the overlap between cognitive giftedness...
Parenting Self-Care: Looking Out for Number One
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Jen Merrill, creator of Laughing at Chaos and author of If This is a Gift, Can I Send It Back?, shares her experience as a parent of a twice-exceptional child and discusses the challenges and benefits of homeschooling. She emphasizes the importance of self-care for parents of gifted and twice exceptional children. Takeaways Parents of gifted and twice exceptional children need to prioritize sel...
Declarative Language: A New Strategy for Neurodivergent Communication
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Often, neurodivergent people have a completely different communication experience than neurotypicals. They respond differently to regulation, attention, and motivation, and often parents struggle when trying to improve connections with their kids. Linda Murphy is the author of The Declarative Language Handbook, and we present an encore of our conversation from 2023, with ideas on how to reframe...
Challenging What We Know About Autism and PDA
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Dr. Donna Henderson joins Emily Kircher-Morris to talk about the changes in the assessment process for autism, the importance of empowering therapists to diagnose autism, and the need for equity in masking. Their conversation also explores the double empathy problem and the challenges of balancing unmasking with the needs of neurodiverse individuals in educational settings. They also discuss th...
A Quest For Meaningful Relationships
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Friendships and relationships can be hard for neurodivergent people, especially if they experience lagging social skills, or struggle with executive function. Emily Kircher-Morris is joined by Caroline Maguire, author of Why Will Nobody Play With Me?, and they discuss the challenges and importance of neurodivergent friendships, particularly for individuals with ADHD. They talk about the lack of...
Not a Disease: Understanding Autism as Difference
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On episode 213, Emily is joined by Matt Lowry, host of the Autistic Culture podcast. They discuss the concept of autism as a neurotype and culture, Matt shares his personal experience as an autistic individual, and they discuss the importance of understanding autism in a non-pathologizing way. They also discuss the need for neurodiversity affirming evaluations and therapy, as well as the challe...
Challenging the Status Quo in the Classroom and Beyond
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Challenging the Status Quo in the Classroom and Beyond
Turning Neurodiversity Barriers Into Benefits
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Turning Neurodiversity Barriers Into Benefits
Dani Donovan on Motivation, Procrastination, and Her Viral Memes
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Dani Donovan on Motivation, Procrastination, and Her Viral Memes
Ask Me Anything #7 with Emily Kircher-Morris
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Ask Me Anything #7 with Emily Kircher-Morris
The Tricky Transition From High School to Higher Ed
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The Tricky Transition From High School to Higher Ed
Unique Learning Challenges of Neurodivergent Brains
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Unique Learning Challenges of Neurodivergent Brains
Creating and Fostering Autonomy and Motivation
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Creating and Fostering Autonomy and Motivation
Perspectives Series: Emotional Regulation
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Perspectives Series: Emotional Regulation
Perspectives Series: ADHD
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Perspectives Series: ADHD
Perspectives Series: Sensory Needs
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Perspectives Series: Sensory Needs
Taming the Pull: Trichotillomania and Other BFRBs
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Taming the Pull: Trichotillomania and Other BFRBs
Myths, Barriers, and Supports for Twice-Exceptionality
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Myths, Barriers, and Supports for Twice-Exceptionality
Life at 200: We’re Grateful, Excited, and Pass the Pumpkin Pie
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Life at 200: We’re Grateful, Excited, and Pass the Pumpkin Pie
Can We Blend Behaviorism and Neurodiversity-Affirming Care?
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Can We Blend Behaviorism and Neurodiversity-Affirming Care?
Am I the Impostor Among Us?
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Am I the Impostor Among Us?
Exceptional Minds: Understanding and Nurturing Profoundly Gifted Children
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Exceptional Minds: Understanding and Nurturing Profoundly Gifted Children
The Magic and Madness of Middle-School
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The Magic and Madness of Middle-School
Ask Me Anything #6 with Emily Kircher-Morris
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Ask Me Anything #6 with Emily Kircher-Morris

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  • @salamonfruith3687
    @salamonfruith3687 2 дні тому

    Matt, these 40 minutes felt like 3 minutes... I could listen to you for hours. I'm not autistic, but I listen to learn so that I can have understanding. I like differences and I love all good people.

  • @CM-ck4nl
    @CM-ck4nl 3 дні тому

    Listening to this really makes me consider how the (not) simple act of trying to understand the mind of a "twice gifted" Can lead to growth by the observer. Studying our differences can bring us closer.

  • @lucialamb4449
    @lucialamb4449 8 днів тому

    Thanks a bunch.

  • @blbrightlights564
    @blbrightlights564 12 днів тому

    What do you think of Maria Montessori teaching method for learning disabilities?concrete to abstract.

  • @katiemclaneak5182
    @katiemclaneak5182 17 днів тому

    This is a fantastic discussion about dyscalculia! I work with students of all ages, one on one, with math support at a learning center known for supporting and working with dyslexia - and I could not agree more with the recognition that for dyscalculics, mastering ONE strategy should be the goal, NOT mastering SEVERAL ways. The time, effort and challenge involved can be so overwhelming and harmful to how a student values themself. So much of my day to day work involves boosting self esteem via math successes.

  • @jackyarcher9749
    @jackyarcher9749 17 днів тому

    'Promosm'

  • @M-dv1yj
    @M-dv1yj 18 днів тому

    Amazing dad. Your son is lucky. You are patient and capable and so very strong to hang on for the ride ✨❤️ sometimes we go so fast we burn up but usually it’s the gradient between what we can and want to pursue and the world dragging on us that burn us up. Your advocacy and grounding and just letting him fly is astounding and heart warming

  • @M-dv1yj
    @M-dv1yj 18 днів тому

    You made that poor kid watch niel 😮‍💨 why do that to the kid it they are actually profoundly gifted. Sagans version is much more or rather Sagan is much more of a mind with the spark of the cosmos and of intellect. Sorry just my inner very resentful inner “profoundly curesed with the gift “ has some cpstd around non profoundly gifted people butchering the perspective of the profoundly gifted. I understand this is for the parents of the gifted but still almost no material on this subject breaches the experience from the eyes of the gifted one. At the same time it is warming the effort you gave and give towards your son and towards helping people in the lives of a gifted person to handle them better.

  • @s0ulvibes_
    @s0ulvibes_ 18 днів тому

    I listened to this and i hate to say it, but i cried. Ive been told im "quiet, shy" my entire life. I feel so seen and very validated. Really appreciate it ❤

  • @millia_honey
    @millia_honey 26 днів тому

    hi, I'm 13, was diagnosed when I was around 10, and I'm very grateful for that, I've been going to Logopedia ever since, it helps and I would recommend it no matter your age. thanks for this episode, not many people talk about it.

  • @jackchamberlain8043
    @jackchamberlain8043 29 днів тому

    Speaking from personal experience, and as a very asynchronous person myself, middle class white people who are gifted have also fallen through the cracks with this. It's also a disservice not to include middle class white people in this conversation.

  • @scottjackson163
    @scottjackson163 Місяць тому

    Nobody told me that I was gifted when I was a child. As a young adult, I joined Mensa, then Intertel, and finally the Triple Nine Society. After I completed academic degrees at Stanford and Johns Hopkins, I had to acknowledge to myself that I’m gifted.

  • @lucialamb4449
    @lucialamb4449 Місяць тому

    Amazing.

  • @Idellphany
    @Idellphany Місяць тому

    Thank you so much.. This is my child to a T, and now I have a much clearer picture.

  • @ahlome0856
    @ahlome0856 Місяць тому

    The fact that you’re one of the only people I’ve seen making the connection between substance use issues and undiagnosed things kids struggle with (or trauma like you said) is the main risk factor 🤯 Like I’ve known this, but not many people in ed even acknowledge this. So many schools only care if a kid is getting good grades and behavior is minimal. They don’t care if the children are thriving. (The administration) it sets kids up to fail. Policy is why kids aren’t reading past a 4th grade level anymore. It’s because schools are teaching to test, not to learn. I got by “fine” in school, too, until I burnt out and didn’t go to college bc what was the point? I wish all teachers were like my kids’ gifted teachers, bc they understand neurodiversity and children. Also, the fact parents have to prove their child is struggling and needs accommodations, even with a diagnosis….if the admin think they’re fine, then they say, guess we don’t need support here 🥲 I do agree that we need to teach skills, but we need the supports to do so if the child doesn’t have the skill, or the ability to build the skill yet (things are often taught way too early and expected to organize by themselves without direction or skill building).

  • @Idellphany
    @Idellphany 2 місяці тому

    Thank you

  • @someonesomeone25
    @someonesomeone25 2 місяці тому

    Just learning about the idea of neuroqueer. Interesting.

  • @NathanMakerProd
    @NathanMakerProd 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for posting this episode on UA-cam! I've only recently been able to put this name, "dyscalculia", to my life-long struggles. (I'm now in my 50's.) It's so hard to find information about it! I've experienced basically everything you talk about here. Driving, measuring (for my woodworking hobby), money, time, etc.

  • @daviscook3128
    @daviscook3128 2 місяці тому

    As a 2e slow processing Computer Engineer that stumbled into an Aerospace career in R&D, I cried watching this. There were a number of things in here I really needed to hear. Thanks for this.

  • @camellia8625
    @camellia8625 2 місяці тому

    Such an informative presentation and so good to have the positive aspects of slowed processing speed brought up.

  • @robokill387
    @robokill387 2 місяці тому

    Apparently there is some autism training that describes masking as "manipulative behaviour" and "deception".

  • @marygarvin4391
    @marygarvin4391 2 місяці тому

    This conversation was brilliant for me! Thank you for the insights into why i am the way i am and how to relate to my kids...

  • @lucialamb4449
    @lucialamb4449 3 місяці тому

    Thank you!

  • @Sbh152
    @Sbh152 3 місяці тому

    LOVE this!!! As a clinician and a parent of a PDA’er I’m going to beg my daughter’s IEP Team to listen to this… For others who may also come across this - Collaborative & Proactive Solutions (Dr. Ross Greene) is the ONLY thing that has worked and I share my knowledge every chance I get.

  • @warh0rn
    @warh0rn 3 місяці тому

    Where they missed because unlike boys.. they didn't struggle with social interactions?

  • @katarinarush9747
    @katarinarush9747 3 місяці тому

    Anxiety can shut the prefrontal cortex down. Such important topic EF/.

  • @katarinarush9747
    @katarinarush9747 3 місяці тому

    I am reluctant to use the word learned self-helpness. Sometimes the brain is wired this way, whether genetically or affected by anxiety, or PTSD, where structural changes in your brain can take place. I would prefer neuroplasticity, as more positive as we want to work on positive connections and relationships, especially if we are working with avoidance and very strong resistance. Ultimately we want to have a good relationship, as you said, which requires patience and time. The reason I am bringing this up is that sometimes so-called professionals can misuse the word self-helplessness- he, or she does not cooperate. Well, it takes a bit more, than just this. You must work first on trust and relationships. As always a great podcast.

  • @Sally.A.C
    @Sally.A.C 3 місяці тому

    I can’t stand living with my 17 year old PDA daughter. Horrible.

  • @rhapsodynight3790
    @rhapsodynight3790 3 місяці тому

    Great..... This is my life with school. I definitely have issues with math concepts and math facts. I can read but my handwriting hasn't been able to improve since third grade, have trouble keeping up physically with my brain, I write letters backwards, have trouble with reading out loud and spelling is absolutely not my forte. However, I was studying at the college level by the time I was in 7th grade and felt like school was too easy. I was a C or B level student in most subjects and completely failed math. Our teachers always docked you points for misspelled words. I've never been tested and in fact, was told that I wasn't allowed to get tested even when teachers and I would ask for an evaluation. I never considered dysgraphia or Dyslexia before now so I'll add those to my list of potentials to test for when I go to counseling next year.

  • @sayidahiklima8125
    @sayidahiklima8125 3 місяці тому

    Thank you so much for making this podcast! ❤?

  • @jean-victorcote5825
    @jean-victorcote5825 4 місяці тому

    There should be links in the description.

  • @paromita_ghosh
    @paromita_ghosh 4 місяці тому

    0:30 but i like to learn ... MY WAY

  • @DrLShaffer
    @DrLShaffer 4 місяці тому

    Harry, I've listened to a few of your talks (including one where you talk about labels) and have read your book. The truth is that I don't care what it is called -- but your help with understanding my kid's behavior is more meaningful than I can say. Like you mention in your book -- there is that "aha" moment, where you realize this is actually a known and explainable pattern of behavior. Thank you!

  • @user-wb3qo5mh9w
    @user-wb3qo5mh9w 4 місяці тому

    As an undiagnosed adult female in the us, i felt so understood hearing his experiences, and its explained so well! Thank you for sharing!

  • @paulanowak5359
    @paulanowak5359 4 місяці тому

    Perhaps some (most?) children do not naturally feel joy about being involved in arduous tasks and acquiring dilligence. They need to believe these actions bring desired results, so - by definition - rely on some sort of external motivation. Apparently it's a cliche, I find that I did not necessarily hear that aspect mentioned, though.

  • @clarkbowler157
    @clarkbowler157 4 місяці тому

    I like this podcast, however looking through somebodys phone is just unnaceptably invasive. If you view family as a some sort of totalitarian state that just tells you far more about the parents than the state of technology. Unacceptable.

  • @janeypatella2573
    @janeypatella2573 4 місяці тому

    Can one of you just come raise my 12 year old please 🙃

  • @lisacup6876
    @lisacup6876 5 місяців тому

    I'm thankful for realizing God made me this way so I could help others! That is the whole purpose to love and serve. Typically AU people have one foot in Heaven and one one earth. No one should ever apologize for this gift. Schools lack the knowledge and ability to see how AU people see things. Instead, they try to conform AU people to their form of thinking and testing. Unfortunately, we do not live in a world that understands or embraces neurodiverse thinking. Honestly, if schools refuse to believe in God, how we expect them to understand or embrace some of God's greatest Angels or gifts found in students with AU.

  • @Simonecsilva1
    @Simonecsilva1 5 місяців тому

    hello! I am Brazilian and mother of a gifted boy with DLD. Do you know of any research on this double exceptionality?

  • @clarkbowler157
    @clarkbowler157 5 місяців тому

    Great!

  • @eponymoususer8923
    @eponymoususer8923 5 місяців тому

    My experience is that it’s less about freedom as a concept and more about autonomy. A demand presents freedom- opens up the opportunity to do something. It limits autonomy- the opportunity to make your own decision to take or leave that opportunity. It’s less about “am I free to do it?” And more about “is the decision mine or someone else’s?” The fawn response truly does confuse this issue. We don’t choose when it’s safe to be ourselves. Safety is external. Compliance can be an exhausting coping mechanism. Even the most apathetic person will run from a herd of charging rhinos to avoid death. Demand feels like an existential threat, like a herd of charging rhinos.

  • @NoahLoftier
    @NoahLoftier 6 місяців тому

    I find her experience with anxiety and A(u)DHD (or not being able to focus well sometimes) very relatable, and I'm in 12th grade. It mostly is in school and moments of trigger. But not when I'm motivated and interested, and usually alone. Sometimes I get too hard on myself for my remiss, lack of effort, and laziness at performing well in the system and daily life. At times, in school, I don't study much (I do appear to be engaged in class, however, but I'm mostly in my head or reading something) until the very last moments before the final exams, and I pick it up 2 days before and score about average. (I'm an Aspie, or level 1 ASD in modern, confusing terms. I also have ADHD.) I shall overcome my issues, and manage, work with, and deal with my problems and myself (meaningfully, I've noticed, is the first step of best), and not fall short over my ambitions and dreams. For these are obstacles, and we can do better, and potentially, the best... Thanks for podcasting!

  • @akoddio
    @akoddio 6 місяців тому

    Where did Harry go?

  • @celeste8157
    @celeste8157 7 місяців тому

    It's so weird because I want people to tell me what to do as it makes my life less stressful, but if somebody gives me a direct order- PURE RAGE 🤬😅

    • @NeurodiversityPodcast
      @NeurodiversityPodcast 6 місяців тому

      😡😠😤😮‍💨🙄🤨😐🙂😄😁😆😅😂🤣

  • @EduardoFGomez-kc7gr
    @EduardoFGomez-kc7gr 7 місяців тому

    Dear Emily, It is such a pity the wheel of school system is still working We have a lot to do and it all starts by visibilising neurodiversity minds. Cheers from Madrid

  • @beth747
    @beth747 7 місяців тому

    So insightful, thank you!

  • @lorenzmenke3121
    @lorenzmenke3121 7 місяців тому

    As a PDA'er and the problem with authority, I often love the shi* face look on my managers at work when I treat them the same and do not recognize their authority over me. This causes problems with police encounters (traffic stops, and others) because again I do not recognize authority and treat them on an even footing. I think that this is a positive. Also LMAO at the sarcasm problem, yes I use it a lot but I am not always clear when I am receiving it. I consider my usage of sarcasm to be very obvious and clear to the target. Maybe it is not so clear!

  • @empoweredparents700
    @empoweredparents700 7 місяців тому

    Fantastic Podcast!

  • @Heyu7her3
    @Heyu7her3 7 місяців тому

    I was a teacher before my ADHD eval. I don't think my mirror neurons act typically _(I grimace at babies, laugh when others fall, etc)._ When I do "feel my feelings" it's either inappropriate or I don't feel better, which makes it come back in waves. So I usually dissociate during crises so I just taught students the typical SEL stuff and to ignore/ not do what I'm doing. Mindfulness/ meditation does not work for me because I fall asleep.